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Show Profile  Michael Posted: 7 November 2013, 12:22 PM  
Oh I've just realised what the problem is. We've been used to using our waist (or a bit lower for tall mappers) as a quick indicator of how high/deep 1m is. With the drop-crotch baggies we trendy mappers are all wearing now, the reference level has lowered...

Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 7 November 2013, 12:27 PM  
Absolutely Michael. There are plenty of examples of over mapped areas which indeed need to be addressed, there are also examples of maps are so detailed it is impossible to conform unless you overgeneralise to the point of making the map unfair or useless to a course planner. 201x (now has a 1 in it)Doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 7 November 2013, 12:34 PM  
Re Printing: one of the big issues is digital printing versus offset to which ISOM has been optimised for. I wonder if this will be a viable option. New here at 'Benefitz' on Auckland's North Shore...

Show Profile  Michael Posted: 7 November 2013, 10:03 PM  
Inkjet? Interesting.

Show Profile  Michael Posted: 18 November 2013, 11:16 AM  
Selwyn has just pointed out that the Aussies have quite a good section about mapping on their website. Worth knowing about.

Show Profile  Michael Posted: 1 January 2014, 7:27 PM  
On my Windows 7 machine I can't get Google Earth to reduce its window width below some minimum, a test suggests 780 pixels. Height yes, but even dragging a corner only affects it vertically. I've been used to having GE and OCAD side by side, and this doesn't leave enough for OCAD. A google search doesn't suggest anything. Any ideas?

Show Profile  Svend Posted: 1 January 2014, 9:03 PM  
Don't drag the corner drag the whole Google Earth window to the left or the right so only part of it is on the screen.

Show Profile  Alistair Posted: 3 January 2014, 9:39 PM  
Buy a bigger screen? ;-D

Show Profile  Bryan Posted: 6 January 2014, 10:17 AM  
I have two screens at work which is great for comparison.

For all my Ocad work, I use my laptop (in the lounge), rather than my desktop in my office at home.

Show Profile  Dwayne Posted: 6 January 2014, 6:42 PM  
I like this monitor - don't need two. Cheap at the moment too.

Show Profile  Kenny Posted: 12 January 2014, 12:05 PM  
In response to Paul's post of 7 Nov on inkjet printing, following is the ISOM draft Inkjet section correction/update that I submitted. Note the later update at end.

[I still follow production print advances and in my opinion ink jet future at the Production level needs to be considered in the context of O maps.
" Speed: ink jet speed has increased significantly in the last few years. 168 full colour A4 pages per minute and 2,700 black A4 pages per minute.
" Operating cost: On a decline. Even at the office level, some of the latest inkjet colour printers are offering running costs below the toner equivalent.

While these Production level inkjet printers are currently very high end, the technology and benefits will devolve to the print shop end of the spectrum over the next few years. It is important to us as elsewhere in this paper, the advantage for O maps of liquid ink over toner was mentioned. Given that professional inkjet presses (proofing and wide format) already provide for colours beyond CMYK, we have a lot to look forward to. And all likely at no more than we are paying now (inflation excepted).

IOF may well have a watching group on such technology futures. But this paper shows no evidence of that. I believe IOF should have such a group and it should keep orienteers up to date annually on progress in the context of O map printing. That way we might avoid a lot of the issues that arose during the emergence of EP (laser digital) presses.

We have to recognise that O map printing is no longer very much in the hands of technically competent map makers and print shops prepared to run OCAD and Condes. Rather we have many amateurs who fail to consider map printing from the user viewpoint. They need education in advance. ]

Later I submitted that this is currently most likely where out maps will be produced


Show Profile  fraser Posted: 13 January 2014, 4:32 PM  
Any recommendations for buying tracing paper? Looks like there is none left in town so I will need to order some online. Thanks.

Show Profile  Michael Posted: 13 January 2014, 8:40 PM  
Selwyn gets it in bulk. He's getting low but he gave me a "ration" recently.

Show Profile  Martin Posted: 13 January 2014, 8:54 PM  
fraser, try Drafting Film (Permatrace) from

Show Profile  fraser Posted: 13 January 2014, 9:58 PM  
Cheers. Is 75 microns the preferred thickness?

This stuff in Christchurch sounds the same, and preferable than ordering from the UK, might give them a call tomorrow.

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