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Show Profile  thomasr Posted: 17 July 2013, 6:52 PM

Show Profile  theoman Posted: 17 July 2013, 7:08 PM  
How to kill orienteering 101.

Show Profile  theoman Posted: 17 July 2013, 7:18 PM  
"The highest-scoring country from Division 2 promoted
to Division 1 for the following year.
The lowest-scoring country from Division 1 relegated
to Division 2 for the following year."

So if the lowest scoring country in division 1 gets more points than the highest scoring country in division 2 they still swap?

They are treating it like a football premier league or something where divisions of teams are playing independently of each other....

Show Profile  Marquita G Posted: 17 July 2013, 8:21 PM  
It's not so bad - at least we get more finalists than we did this year. Or last year.

Show Profile  onemanfanclub Posted: 17 July 2013, 9:15 PM  
@theoman - yes, unless there have been changes from the last draft I saw, there will always be a minimum 1 country moving up or down from each group. However in the unlikely event that for example more than one division 2 country out-points more than one division 1 country it's possible to have several countries swapping. Just very unlikely. It's a better system for determining countries' allotments than some that were in use before qualification races became the norm, but only in the sense that "dead rat" is a better ice-cream flavour than "dog turd"

Show Profile  jeffg Posted: 18 July 2013, 3:39 PM  
It doesn't seem too bad, does it? The Oceania Champs will be a big deal, as there will be 2 years of WOC finals up for grabs, as well as the opportunity to fill out relay team spots. Getting promoted to Div 2 would make a big difference for the relay as well. The big challenge will be getting good relay teams, as the relay is important every year.
Unfortunately we haven't had a great year this year, so that will influence 2015.
It's certainly a different way of looking at things. It's going to be quite hard for the selectors with foreign-based athletes.

Show Profile  Jamie Posted: 18 July 2013, 3:56 PM  
I think we need to look on the bright side and make plans around the new system.

It doesn't seem that bad to me. NZer's have been lucky for a long time to have relatively easy access to WOC. Having to strive that much harder for a spot (at least in the long and middle) may actually improve performance.

Think of all those great athletes from the Nordic countries that live orienteering - do damn well - but never quite make it...poor bastards.

Show Profile  onemanfanclub Posted: 18 July 2013, 5:12 PM  
unless there have been changes in detail, the place gained from the Oceania champs (or any of the other 'continental' champs) only applies to the WOC following, not for the two years between Oceania champs

Show Profile  thomasr Posted: 18 July 2013, 7:32 PM  
Continental Champ thing helps us. We just have to smash the aussies a bit more often. Maybe we can refocus on domestic elite racing and trans tasman with focussed trips to train/race world cups.

Show Profile  HeadHoncho Posted: 24 July 2013, 10:45 AM  
@ Nic, the wording re Oceania Champs on the IOF powerpoint slides is "Regional Champion in the distance from most recent IOF Regional Championships", which suggests the personal place is valid for 2 years.

Also, the slides state the number of countries that change between Division 2 and 3 each year is two, not one - making it easier to go up (and down).

For women, I'd expect NZL to be in Division 2 more often than not, while the men may fluctuate between the two.

Tom is right, Oceania Champs present a good way to get extra runners qualified and perhaps strategies should be built around that. Remind me who is the current men's long distance champion Tom?




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