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Show Profile  DMjunior Posted: 8 October 2012, 6:52 PM  
Is it me or is this just annoying?

Show Profile  rossmaxmo Posted: 8 October 2012, 7:04 PM  
Both!

I sorted it in excel, check it here:
http://www.sprintthebay.org/oddness/middle.xlsx

I think a redraw might be in order, there seems to be vacant places throughout the start draw = unfair. These need to be at the beginning or end of each grade.

Show Profile  rossmaxmo Posted: 8 October 2012, 7:15 PM  
(FYI: this is re Auckland Champs)


Show Profile  Dwayne Posted: 8 October 2012, 7:32 PM  
Thanks Ross saved me the hassle

Show Profile  AllanJ Posted: 9 October 2012, 10:29 AM  
Sprint start list was done as follows:
C1 World ranking points - highest ranked last start, non-ranked starting first, randomly assigned.
C2-4 Runners assigned randomly as per software within grades (apart from one parent request).
Vacant places for all courses were placed at end of each grade.

Show Profile  Martin Posted: 9 October 2012, 10:47 AM  
M21E middle distance has vacants at 11:28 and 12:08. W21E has a vacant at 11:46. M40 and M50 also have vancants in the middle of the field for that event.

Interesting to see a mixture of 2, 3 and 4 minute start intervals used across grades.

"assigned randomly as per software" - I had thought it was commonly known (after 9 years of using sportident) that the software is not completely random when drawing start lists for multi-days, even if each is created as an individual event. Quite often the same people will be drawn adjacent, or at the same end of the field.

Show Profile  Michael Posted: 9 October 2012, 10:50 AM  
I'd like to invent a new acronym. SISMITFBWTFII? Suppose its staring me in the face but where the...

Show Profile  hughff Posted: 9 October 2012, 1:29 PM  
http://www.random.org/sequences/
"This form allows you to generate randomized sequences of integers. The randomness comes from atmospheric noise, which for many purposes is better than the pseudo-random number algorithms typically used in computer programs."
Give everyone a number based on alphabetical order and in the time it takes to get a response from your browser, you have assigned randomly.

Show Profile  Martin Posted: 9 October 2012, 1:39 PM  
SISMITFBWTFII... it's here:
http://aoa.org.nz/regforms/2012aklchamps/startlists.html

Show Profile  DMjunior Posted: 9 October 2012, 4:46 PM  
why was it done on WRE? they aren't WRE?

Show Profile  rob.g Posted: 9 October 2012, 5:16 PM  
You are worrying about nothing, I reckon.

It'll be a great event on different terrain, and is not a major event, but a great leadup to the World Cup races.

Show Profile  AllanJ Posted: 9 October 2012, 6:24 PM  
No such thing as a random number/list as every method used to create them has been devised by a human (who is always biased).

WR - only done on sprint, just thought it would be a good thing and because I could - it's not a hard thing to sort out! Feel free to object on the day however.

Show Profile  Dwayne Posted: 9 October 2012, 6:31 PM  
I'll save my protest and only use it if my new shoes get dirty

Show Profile  theoman Posted: 9 October 2012, 7:18 PM  
Agree with rob. Should be an amazing weekend.

Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 9 October 2012, 8:46 PM  
Dwayne if your shoes are clean after this weekend I will protest.

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