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What about Super-Clubs?

Show Profile  Michael Posted: 7 April 2009, 5:21 PM  
Soooo, Auckland is to get a super-council absorbing half a dozen existing ones. Some punters in Wellington are suggesting the same. Of course others fear that "local identity" will be lost, they won't "have a say". (Though not many people actually vote in local body elections.)

Although amateur sport is different from local government, what's the best arrangement for orienteering clubs? Should there be a "Super-Auckland" club, should Wgtn and Hutt Valley (including the remnants of Kapiti) combine? PAPO is a model of a large club which serves an urban area similar to greater Wellington. And Hawkes Bay is one club in spite of Napier and Hastings being staunchly separate in many spheres. What are the pros and cons?

Show Profile  pete s Posted: 7 April 2009, 5:46 PM  
an interesting debate that one Michael - I have to admit to being initially (ie in my first couple of years o'ing) being drawn to a superclub idea for Akl, using the same corporate reasoning I use in my job (less people involved in admin, less beauracracy etc). However I now wonder if the best approach is to go the other way - more clubs so that the load of running events is spread across a wider active grouping. Jan the Austrian guy who stayed with us last year said there were something like 13 O clubs in Vienna (sim popn as Akl), and each club only had to run 2-3 events in the year - times this by 13 gave a pretty decent calendar - and through relying on a much larger group of people than the e.g. core group that runs most of akl events. Also, smaller clubs could specialise in eg MTBO, or Rogaines, or summer events etc

Show Profile  mick finn Posted: 8 April 2009, 2:45 AM  
Could work eh! If you could take out for example the financial entity requirements of clubs - perhaps by online centralising of membership and event entry payment, you could have community style clubs focused on attracting and training people and running one or two events. Would also have to find a way to produce and distribute maps, both existing and new - perhaps a map levy from events, proceeds going to the club producing and maintaining a map. Could summer series be run as a lot of v.small-club events? Is an overall marketing umbrella needed, at regional rather than national level?

Show Profile  HeadHoncho Posted: 8 April 2009, 3:40 AM  
You trying to fire up Jamie again Mick?

Show Profile  mick finn Posted: 8 April 2009, 12:17 PM  
Who me?

Show Profile  addison Posted: 8 April 2009, 12:44 PM  
I agree with Pete.

If we set up infrastructure that means that everyone and anyone don't have to reinvent the wheel (eg with online membership stuff etc) then more clubs are better.

However, OCAD isn't cheap. Perhaps we should be saying to OCAD and IOF that it basically makes the sport expensive? Is it realistic paying $800NZ for a new OCAD licence?

Show Profile  Michael Posted: 8 April 2009, 1:01 PM  
Simon I think the price of OCAD is a tiny detail, only the cost of 4 SI stations. But I do think we should try and negotiate a club licence deal. Suggest you discuss this through the Mapping topic.




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