 pete s
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Posted: 28 October 2008, 9:54 PM
Thanks James - good feedback. And on that note, we will be reviewing the event in the next week or so, so keen on any helpful and constructive views on how to make it better - either on here, or email me direct on peteswa at paradise.net.nz
Thanks guys!
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Michael
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Posted: 29 October 2008, 12:38 AM
By all means have small intervals to allow head to head racing and promote the social atmosphere - and call it a B level event. I must emphasise that this does NOT mean second-rate. It just means that in some aspect it wouldn't follow our competition rules, which (among other things) aim to reduce the effect of luck as much as possible. The spirit if not the letter of the rules would surely have the intervals as large as conveniently possible.
I gather that day 4 was called a B because of the map scale for the enlargement, and then changed to an A after some pressure. I wonder why the pressure, did people think that "B" was an insult or something? I like both A events (competition) and B events where other things especially experimentation can occur.
In day 4 we had in fact a new format, which I will call the mintle distance. That is, a middle-sprint-middle sandwich. The scale for the middle section was correct, the scale for the maze was correct for a sprint. The only thing that is probably outside our rules is their COMBINATION into one race. But I think it was a huge success.
So... while head to head racing might have been good for a grin-and-tonic weekend, I hope it is not considered for the national champs.
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rob.g
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Posted: 29 October 2008, 1:39 AM
The problem with drawn out days were the big numbers on Course 3, and 2 minute intervals instead of 3 minute would help or could have split to have courses 3a and 3b. It wasn't ideal and dragged the days out, but overall a really successful test run by the 2 clubs for the NZ Champs next year.
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ole codger
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Posted: 29 October 2008, 11:53 AM
The unsung hero of the weekend was Paul's mapping of a very difficult area. Working from a map that had some dubious photogrammertry with areas of no previous fieldwork, in low visibility that would have tested the very best of mappers especialy the native in the upper levels, I thought he did a great job even if it was possibly not perfect. Gene and Matthew once again put together good courses and Selwyn and Dave put before us a new formatt of orienteering which I enjoyed once I got my head around getting to the 1st control(in the maze).Congratulations to those orienteers who spiked them all in the maze. I'm looking forward to slow running on it again. My first impression was that it was a bit of a treasure hunt until I went back and checked out were and why I went wrong.
Basically I went into it the same speed as across the road and lost contact. I was in good company as well as I believe I saw Carsten in the area of the first control after I had been their seven minutes and he went in ahead of me . I went back to the road and took the left option and got it no problem. It was very much a stay in contact area.
I'm not to sure as why we don't have 2min intervals, we have them in Aussie were the visibility is better and its bit of a b... getting back when the prize giving is on. A great weekend however, thanks NW and Auckland
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Greg
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Posted: 30 October 2008, 12:36 AM
what happened here Simon
http://picasaweb.google.com/AucklandOrienteeringClub/Monday4#5262503975565482994
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SJ
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Posted: 30 October 2008, 12:56 AM
Must have tripped or something I guess...
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addison
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Posted: 30 October 2008, 1:45 AM
I would say he must have been on the piss, but then I better not say that because he beat me.
I reckon the pressure got to him, having to follow yourself and I.
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SJ
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Posted: 30 October 2008, 9:41 PM
Had to have some Gin to go with the Tonic. Or maybe you just have that effect on me?
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Michael
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Posted: 31 October 2008, 1:01 AM
RouteGadget for Day 4 is loaded (and Day 1). Get your routes on. Might pay to have your map beside you as you input because the Maze is the same scale as the rest of the course.
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Paul I
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Posted: 31 October 2008, 5:21 AM
Thanks for your kind words ole codger. Only a fellow mapper would fully understand the enormity and problems of mapping such a block!
However there are as always many, many unsung heros for every event we go to. It's only when we get involved that we can really appreciate how much work goes into our sport and so it is hugely rewarding to do your bit what ever your preference. By spreading the workload we can avoid burnout from individuals who often do too much.
You get out what you put in, and make great friends along the way.
I felt each day of TONIC was quite unique and loved it all.
Thanks especially to the large nos. of volunteers who helped collect controls each day, by this stage the course setter/controller is normally well spent so the help is really noticed.
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onemanfanclub
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Posted: 31 October 2008, 9:33 AM
Paul! Monday, leg 5 to 6...? Don't know if I admire more your persistence in searching that other block of forest so thoroughly or your honesty in putting that up in a public place. I feel way much better about some of my oopses now, thanks ;-)
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pete s
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Posted: 31 October 2008, 11:14 AM
Yeah Paul, thats a pretty special leg you did there 5-6 - def worthy of a mention, and a retrospective "hard luck story award" - a wee prize will be forwarded your way soon!!!:-)
And on the unsung hero topic, there were a heap of people who worked bloody heard leading up to and during the weekend - fantastic effort. I'd like to make special mention of Selwyn, not just for the effort he put into mapping the maze, but also for having the forsight and courage to map it in the first place! - looking from the outside it resembled a warzone more than an orienteering area, and what an experience!! :-)
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Paul I
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Posted: 31 October 2008, 11:35 AM
Ahem, yes a bit embarrassing. Thanks for bringing that to attention.
Is it just me or did anyone else crack up when they saw the ruined jeep out in the middle of the maze?
Anyone care to come up with an explanation to how it got there? Looked like part of an old movie set in a formiddable jungle- wonder if there were survivors?
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Alistair
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Posted: 31 October 2008, 2:20 PM
The maze looks like some maps I ran on in at the French 6-day this summer...
They were 1:7500 & 1:5000 maps on A3 sized (or bigger) paper. Practically everything was mapped. Then we had multi-day classic length courses. Check out the rock too - the western half of day 5 was fantastic!
http://www.matrace.fr/gadget/cgi/reitti.cgi?act=map&id=240&kieli=en
http://www.matrace.fr/gadget/cgi/reitti.cgi?act=map&id=241&kieli=en
http://www.matrace.fr/gadget/cgi/reitti.cgi?act=map&id=242&kieli=en
http://www.matrace.fr/gadget/cgi/reitti.cgi?act=map&id=243&kieli=en
http://www.matrace.fr/gadget/cgi/reitti.cgi?act=map&id=245&kieli=en
http://www.matrace.fr/gadget/cgi/reitti.cgi?act=map&id=246&kieli=en
And on one day they blew-up a part of one map for a sprint.
http://www.matrace.fr/gadget/cgi/reitti.cgi?act=map&id=244&kieli=en
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Alistair
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Posted: 31 October 2008, 2:24 PM
I meant Day 4, not 5, although the western part of Day 5 was fantastic too.
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