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World Cup at O-ringen!

Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 26 July 2007, 3:33 AM  
H40 short
Rudy H
Day 1 61:14 (149th from 206) winning time 35:04
Day 2 69:37 (186th) w/t 32:38
Day 3 43:46 (191st)

H40
Mal G
Day 1 94:42 (170th from 179) w/t 36:21
Day 2 97:06 (172nd) w/t 35:19
Day 3 76:25 (174th)

H55
Tony P
Day 1 84:01 (135th from 161) w/t 40:26
Day 2 74:54 (137th) w/t 33:46
Day 3 35:17 (111th)

H21 short
Dave M
Day 1 88:20 (168th from 188) w/t 34:57
Day 2 70:24 (94th) w/t 43:01
Day 3 59:31 (143rd)


Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 26 July 2007, 3:44 AM  
Malcolm, when I went to O-Ringen I was very fit, I either did a very good race or I blew it. The reason was quite simple. I was generally running too fast for my orienteering speed. Sound familiar?

I found this stuff on the Okansis site. Johan is leading your grade!...

A bit of an interview with Johan Ivarsson


Last night I read a bit of an interview with Johan Ivarsson. He talked a bit about motivation and his thinking about orienteering. Here is a bit of the interview translated from Swedish:

Motivation leads to concentration. My motivation is to do the perfect race. That's what pays in the long run. You should still be satisfied with a good race. In my perfect race I make a few stops (that I've allowed myself to do). Orienteering technique steers my running speed. When I begin to think about running faster or pushing harder, then I've lost focus in what is important (orienteering technique) in favor of less important things. I've noticed that my running speed is high when the orienteering is going well.


One outcome of this sort of approach is that you tend to have steady results, but don't necessarily have the great results. You're a lot more likely to run five races and finish 3rd, 4th, 3rd, 5th and 4th, than to finish 1st, 10th, 1st, 10th and 10th.

Here is what Ivarsson said:

It is more fun to have a good run in every race and finish 5th than to win a race and run poorly in 4 or 5 races.

* The interview is part of the book "Traening" form the Swedish O' Federation.

.... these were his thoughts in 2002!

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Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 26 July 2007, 5:32 AM  
...and don't forget Thierry's theory "100 metres into the future"

Some quotes from his O-sport Magazine interview...

After his disastrous WOC 2001 at Tampere
"I was a pretty good orienteer, but the problem was that Thierry at Tampere knew all the time exactly where he was. At any moment, at any place, I could precisely show my position on the map. That was the main problem. When you orienteer like that you become very slow.
What I had to to change was my mentality. I worked on being able to select the big and important features for my orienteering and not to read every single detail."

So, what would you say is the biggest difference between Thierry in 2001 and Thierry today?
"I would say that in 2001, I was an orienteer who knew exactly where he was. At present, I'm an orienteer who knows where he will be in the next 100 metres."

So, you are all the time, in fact, running in the future?
"Yes, and that's very important. I may actually be running through a certain space; but, in my mind, I'm already some 200 metres ahead. All the time I always try to keep my head up and to look for the features as distant as possible. Moreover, in 2001 I was reading the features only when I passed them; so, I was not really running in the present, but in the past."...

Good luck to you all for your next O-Ringen race.
"Relax and enjoy" are two more keys to O success.

Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 26 July 2007, 6:24 AM  
Artical from OKanas
Monday, July 23, 2007

I hate when that happens


From Mikkel Lund's desciption of today's mass start World Cup race (roughly translated from the original Danish):

...I continued with my same plan and go to the 5th control, but it has the wrong code! It is 231 and I am looking for 221. How in the world could that be. I was absolutely sure I was in control. Double check the code. Yes, 221. I don't have any idea what could be going on and I triple check the code, shit...It is the 7th control that is 221. I do have 231! Go back to the control, but I've lost about 2 minutes and the race was already over for me. But, I had to keep fighting on.

Don't you hate when that happens?

Lund kept fighting and ended up 35th, which means he qualifies for the middle distance World Cup race.


Yip, been there done that, anyone else? Paul

Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 26 July 2007, 6:25 AM  
Another from OKansas, read on....Sunday, July 22, 2007
Thierry Gueorgiou's Cowboy Boots


Lisa is at the Swedish 5-days and spent some time today asking Thierry Gueorgiou questions. I don't know the details, but my guess is the conversation went something like this...

Lisa: You've been a great orienteer for a long time. You must have had some good coaching when you were a junior.

Thierry Gueorgiou: Oui. We were a bunch of juniors in France who trained a lot.

Lisa: Going to training camps?

Thierry Gueorgiou: Oui.

Lisa: Have you ever heard of Sid Richardson?

Thierry Gueorgiou: Sid? Hmmm...Sid? Oui, Sid...Sex Pistol, right?

Lisa: Ha, ha! No, not Sid Vicious (though some might say that Richardson is Vicious). No, Sid Richardson is where we have a training camp every year for juniors. It is really good. You should come and help coach the juniors.

Thierry Gueorgiou: That would be fun. I would like that very much. Working with juniors is always rewarding. Where is this training camp?

Lisa: In Texas. Not so far from Dallas.

Thierry Gueorgiou: Texas. I have never been there. The U.S. Dollar is so weak. It wouldn't cost much to go to Texas. When is this training camp?

Lisa: June.

Thierry Gueorgiou: June! In Texas! It must be hot as hell. You must be crazy.

Lisa: Well, June isn't so bad. It is much more comfortable than people think.

Thierry Gueorgiou: Hmmm...maybe I should come to Texas. With the U.S. Dollar so weak I could buy several pairs of cowboy boot.

Lisa: I would like to talk more, but I have to go help my husband buy some food. The only word he knows in Swedish is Jordnotssmor and he wants something else to eat today.


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Show Profile  mick finn Posted: 26 July 2007, 7:22 AM  
yee ha!
when's the followup?

Show Profile  robbie Posted: 26 July 2007, 2:47 PM  
Tania started 9.30 First start was 9.00
today is 9.2k

Show Profile  robbie Posted: 26 July 2007, 3:11 PM  
third starter has finished 56.27 Annika Billstam
go tania

Show Profile  robbie Posted: 26 July 2007, 3:22 PM  
6 finished times are well spread Annika still leads.
all have started

Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 26 July 2007, 6:58 PM  
H40 short
Rudy H
Day 1 61:14 (149th from 206) winning time 35:04
Day 2 69:37 (186th) w/t 32:38
Day 3 43:46 (191st)
Day 4 37:41 (165th)

H40
Mal G
Day 1 94:42 (170th from 179) w/t 36:21
Day 2 97:06 (172nd) w/t 35:19
Day 3 76:25 (174th)
Day 4 75:44 (166th)

H55
Tony P
Day 1 84:01 (135th from 161) w/t 40:26
Day 2 74:54 (137th) w/t 33:46
Day 3 35:17 (111th)
Day 4 82:02 (133rd)

H21 short
Dave M
Day 1 88:20 (168th from 188) w/t 34:57
Day 2 70:24 (94th) w/t 43:01
Day 3 59:31 (143rd)
Day 4 194:29 (182nd) I think that's a definate drop day!

D21 SE
Tania Robinson NZL
Day 4 72:04 (24th)

Can't see Day 5 results yet, but found a video showing a whole lot of runners waste deep crossing a swollen brown stream, the log bridge looked washed away. Niiiiiice!

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Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 26 July 2007, 7:08 PM  
Full lists of the current standings can be found by clicking on World Cup on the IOF home page.

Leading standings
Women
1. 445 Simone Niggli SUI
2. 340 Heli Jukkola FIN
3. 246 Tatiana Ryabkina RUS
4. 207 Minna Kauppi FIN
5. 192 Helena Jansson SWE
6. 181 Marianne Andersen NOR

Men
1. 400 Thierry Gueorgiou FRA
2. 257 Anders Nordberg NOR
3. 229 Mats Haldin FIN
4. 189 Damien Renard FRA
5= 177 Emil Wingstedt SWE & Daniel Hubmann SUI

Simone Niggli and Thierry Gueorgiou are also clear leaders in the IOF World Rankings. Click on World Rankings on the IOF home page to view the current World Rankings lists.

Show Profile  mal g Posted: 26 July 2007, 9:13 PM  
Hey guys. Thanks paul for those reults. Day 5 hasnt started yet fellas easy. We just finished day 4. Today was about process and it was our longest race to date. I have just checked pauls times that he has posted and i coverd 6.2km today faster than I did 3.6??km yesterday. Had one major mistake today but the rest of the process went a lot better. strong attack points and map contact. The bridge that was mentioned earlier had a crossing point marked on the map but under the weight of use it stared to bend. I have heard from some swedes in the area at the time that two guys were up to theirs waist with screw drivers trying to fix it while runners were crossing it. Then they stopped the runners from crossing and told them to cross a little further along. One of the m60 swedes went up to his neck!!! He wasnt happy and complained. They had the option of running round the swamp but were assured that the way across was ok - not if you were shorter than me!!!!The terrain today was outstanding. Your comments about speed paul were very relevant today. 36mins to clock out 6.2km these guys were flying. I tried to conrol myself and with a margin of success managed to do so. I watched the world cup sprint last night and OH BOY what an event. Again people looked at me strange when I yelled support for Tania. - IN ENGLISH!!!!The commentator missed her crossing the bridge at the first spectator control, I yelled Go Tania , commentator cut the music playing at the time and introduced her in swedish. ABSOLUTLEY mind blowing watching these guys close up. Our juniors would benefit immensely from this sort of thing. There was a kid from jwoc running in the world cup sprint - he won a couple of medals-he in no way discraced himself. He was right up with the leaders. Tania came in 1.15 off the leader at the time. It was a proud time to be a kiwi in the crowd. well done tania- sorry I missed you afterwards. On my way to my start today I was passed by a not unattractive blond wearing a new zealand O top. Off I went and turns out that the morrison family have been doing their bit for international relations, GO GUYS!!and the NZ jersey was on display for all to see albeit worn by a non new zealander. Hows your great britain jersey kate? heheheheSatrt times arent up yet for the final tomorrow ´Body sore legs hurt, shorter final tomorrow, time to inflict serious pain and go for it and see how I perform in a lesser final. Things were obviously more competitive today given I covered the same distance 22 mins quicker today than the other day and only make up 6 places aaaarrrgh. Ive got video footage of the world cup when I get home it will get on the web. TTFN

Show Profile  The Clem Posted: 27 July 2007, 3:20 AM  
Tania's pretty tired but still has running left in her, even if her body disagrees with that. As per usaul she's giving as much as her body will let her, with the body wanting to 'lightweight' itself at the end of the race. Although accidental inhalement of Leppin squeezies through your nose obviously doesn't help. She doesn't know how that happened but it did. But she knows it's good training for WOC because she wasn't able to get this kind of racing before she left NZ.
Just spoke to her 11.00pm their time as she just got in from working and a some quick dinner (someone has to keep the boss in business), she's up and away about 7am for a 7.9km chasing start. She starts at 13.44 and probably not likely to catch Simone starting at 12.10. She's looking forward to a rest day.
Paul: I asked about Dave M's time of 194.29 yesterday. Breakfast was much more important, so he started when he was ready. Consequently his time was counted from when he was meant to start. It's all about how you enjoy your orienteering.



Show Profile  Paul I Posted: 27 July 2007, 3:49 AM  
Yeah Clem I just spotted what happened to Dave by seeing his splits... It must have been a good breakfast as Dave had a reasonable run!

H40 short
Rudy H
Day 1 61:14 (149th from 206) winning time 35:04
Day 2 69:37 (186th) w/t 32:38
Day 3 43:46 (191st)
Day 4 37:41 (165th)

H40
Mal G
Day 1 94:42 (170th from 179) w/t 36:21
Day 2 97:06 (172nd) w/t 35:19
Day 3 76:25 (174th)
Day 4 75:44 (166th)

H55
Tony P
Day 1 84:01 (135th from 161) w/t 40:26
Day 2 74:54 (137th) w/t 33:46
Day 3 35:17 (111th)
Day 4 82:02 (133rd)

H21 short
Dave M
Day 1 88:20 (168th from 188) w/t 34:57
Day 2 70:24 (94th) w/t 43:01
Day 3 59:31 (143rd)
Day 4 194:29 (182nd) Note: started 144min lare, so depending on how long it took to get to #1 real time was about 50:00 around 99th place.

D21 SE
Tania Robinson NZL
Day 1 Long 13.8k 126:58 (51st)
Day 2 Mid B Final 4.7k 35:46 (2nd)
Day 3 Sprint 2.9k 16:53 (33rd)
Day 4 9.0k? 72:04 (24th)

Last day everyone, should be getting some nice blisters by now.
Ain't the chasing start just cool with freak'n runners everywhere!

Viewing a sample of the map it looks like they've saved the best for last. Quite flat and open, the longer courses middle section is thru "glacial fluvial morrains containing very detailed contours".

Good luck.



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Show Profile  Neil K Posted: 27 July 2007, 5:26 AM  
Go Tania. Doing awesome in Sweden fresh of the plane!


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